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销售绿色工作的交易技巧

绿色工作are the hot topic these days -- with the economy in full meltdown and the environment looking much the same way, more and more people are looking for new jobs that benefit the planet.

幸运的是,寻求工作的人不乏资源。有些,例如greenbiz.com自己的职位公告板,是相对较新的,但其他人已经在绿色工作中掌握了公众的想象。

彼得·比德尔
彼得·比德尔

莎拉·菲斯特·盖尔(Sarah Fister Gale)spoke with Peter Beadle, the founder of GreenJobs.com -- one of the oldest sites dedicated to jobs in green companies -- about tips and tricks for people on the green job hunt.

莎拉·菲斯特·盖尔(Sarah Fister Gale):Thank you for taking the time to talk with me today. I thought maybe we could start by having you introduce yourself and then I want to talk to you both about what Green Jobs is and then about the kind of professional jobs that you are seeing on the market right now and how our readers can position themselves for those jobs. So if you wouldn’t mind, let’s just start by introducing yourself.

彼得·比德尔:好的。Well, my name is Peter Beadle. I’ve been in the energy business for over 35 years. Twelve of those have been in solar and renewable, the last 12, of course.

我已开始绿色工作大约五年前,因为我看到越来越需要将人们吸引到可再生能源行业。这些行业正在增长,尤其是风和太阳能的增长速度,以至于他们不可能从内部推动其增长。

SFG:显然,我们看到了很多关于绿领和人们成为太阳能电池板安装者和更多建筑方面的机会的讨论和媒体,但是专业工作呢?您是否看到具有绿色头衔的副总统角色或管理职位的增长?

PB:好吧,我开始的“专业”要比这要低得多,因为大多数可再生能源公司的技术都很高。当然,这并不是所有这些,而是​​因为其中一些只是销售活动。

Sales and installation and you can’t call those high tech, but the technology -- the ones that actually provide technology are certainly high tech, they require R&D as well as engineering.

因此,您知道,这是技术毕业生的第一个入口点,无论是科学家还是工程师是研发或制造业。

SFG:That’s a good point. So if I’m in college and if you’ve got people starting out or for students pursuing a degree, how do they position themselves to be attractive to this community so that they can get these jobs?

PB:好吧,如果您现在刚开始时,您会很容易,因为几乎每所看过的大学都必须查看网站,都有某种形式的可再生能源课程。

而且,您知道,您可以选择。因此,您现在可以从大学毕业,以使您为太阳能光伏的学位供应,如果您愿意的话,别无其他。

或一般可再生能源。我的意思是欧洲人做他们所谓的可再生能源大师。它是由欧盟经营的,大约八所大学为此做出了贡献,参与其中。

在美国,大型大学还归功于当地社区学院。

SFG:那么,哪些课程是什么样的部分,您实际上可以专门研究可再生能源?

PB:I’ve said about the masters in renewable energy in Europe which is a European -- called the European Masters. Some several of the individual universities that don’t participate in that program also offer bachelors course degrees in renewable energy. There’s some in engineering, some in just the science background, and the same is true in the U.S. Stanford has a big program. I think they give bachelor’s degrees, and masters, similarly for California, University of California.

因此,您可以通过可再生能源选择现在专门从事能源生产的工程学位。

SFG:好的。如果您还没有那个预见的话怎么办?如果你...

PB:好的。好吧,如果您还没有那样的预见,那么我认为技术人员将其进入该行业要比销售人员说的要困难。

因为一旦他们开始工作,他们的信誉就基于1)学位和2)他们的经验。

而且,如果这与可再生能源或他们在可再生能源谱系中实际看的行业无关,那么它们处于不利地位。他们必须证明他们可以尝试以某种方式出售该专业知识。而且,如果他们像硅谷相关的东西,那么硅谷的许多人都喜欢薄膜和半导体。好吧,PV只是一个大的半导体。因此,如果您愿意将自己的知识库成功转移到可再生能源中,尤其是太阳能,那么许多人都可以成功地转移其知识库。

SFG:Let’s say you have a degree and some job experience outside of the green energy field, but you want to get into that. Maybe you have worked in a related technology or maybe you’re more in a management position. Are there things that you can do to make yourself more attractive to hiring these positions?

PB:好的。我认为 - 好吧,我的观察是,它是基于一家名为“绿色工作”的公司,向外看正在发生的事情。因此,它注定是斑点的,而且不能全面。但是我似乎看到的是,正如我所说的那样,它在一开始就更容易了。一开始的问题实际上是找出机会。

因为在入门级职位上,公司通常不愿意支付搬迁费用。因此,如果您理解我的意思,他们不希望人们在西海岸的申请时,他们不希望人们从东海岸申请。

因此,我不断地从那个职位的人那里得到问题 - 您知道,毕业或即将毕业并想进入可再生能源,但由于看不到广告宣传的工作而感到沮丧。我只能说在当地看,然后看Craigslist,因为我的猜测是广告或当地报纸的地方。他们当然需要那些人,并且正在雇用这些人。他们只是不使用绿色工作,这是全球工具。

您知道,为什么要从中西部申请您的一所印度大学的100名工程师?这就是将会发生的事情,如果您把它们放在

SFG:那将是一个好点。

PB:On something like Green Jobs. You can’t control who reads the web.

SFG:正确的。因此,您认为那些公司在本地广告?

PB:我认为他们是。我的意思是,您知道,如果没有对公司进行民意调查,我无法证明这一点,也没有进行调查,但这就是我所相信的。

You know, and you really start from the premise that renewable energy companies just like any other companies. You know, it has all the same kinds of people, same kind of posts, from CEO down to janitor, and it has to fill those posts the best way he can. You know, so the low level and the entry level, they’ll do that as locally as possible. If they see your level and the vice-president level, it’s just probably the next easiest way to break in because those guys are all highly experienced. Normally their expertise is directly applicable to the industry they’re looking at or directly tranferrable. In other words, it’s related.

And the higher you go, the less important it seems to be. You know, so if you’re a CEO, a record of -- a successful record of high tech stock ops may be more important than exactly what the stock ops were as long as they’re technology based.

You know, similarly, for CFO, experience of startups, of rasing capable venture capital and that kind of stuff, it’s putting more of the stuff than the actual kind of company that you were involved with.

因此,如果您愿意,顶部和底部比中间的家伙更容易。

SFG:好吧好吧。好吧,如果您是中间的人,对吗?您吗?如果您40岁,并且您一直从事中间管理,那就做到这一点 -

PB:好的。好吧,您看 - 首先,当人们打电话时,我对他们的建议越来越多。有点达到了我们甚至无法回答的地步,但是幸运的是,至少有了电子邮件,您可以将它们放在等待列表中。

一个,决定要去哪里,因为太阳能不像风,它不像 - 这不像生物燃料或生物量等。他们是不同的行业。

您知道,他们可以称自己为可再生,但它们仍然是截然不同的行业。所以下定决心。您必须集中精力,因为为一个行业开展活动不一定会在下一个行业中为您提供帮助。

So if you’re going for solar, say, then find out about the industry. The more you can talk the language, know what all the acronyms stand for, and how it is produced and how its cost is justified in what the payback is, the more you can talk the language of the company. And even if you haven’t got the experience, they recognize your knowledge base and you stand more chance of getting an entry. The higher up the tree you go from the bottom all the way through, not just at the top end, the more important networking is.

我可以给出的最好的例子是说来自现有太阳能公司的高管,他离开了。但是,太阳能公司并不大,因此大多数太阳能公司都知道其他公司的高管。

他们知道,如果一个人甚至是销售经理或推销员,则可以使用。他们对他有意见,因为他们在节目中看到了他,他们看过他的作品,他们要么想要他,要么不想要他。如果他有任何好处,他就是可以销售的。

He’ll be snapped up quickly. And it’s the same for people who are trying to get a promotion in this industry. If they know your face and know your name and recognize you from the past, you’ve got a lot more chance than somebody who they've never heard of.

SFG:你怎么 -

PB:You may have exactly the same credentials. How do you do that?

SFG:Yeah, if you’re not going –

PB:这取决于您的位置。如果您说您在北加州湾区的位置。我的建议是加入北加州太阳能协会,这是美国太阳能协会的一章。但这是较低的钥匙。加入要便宜得多。

SFG:比国民?

PB:Than the national one. It meets more regularly and it’s much more informal. When I say low key, I mean informal. And so, you know, it don’t cost you that much. It’ll cost you time, but you get to meet people who actually are in the industry, you know, the members that most of them at least are already in the industry.

他们在各个级别上工作。而且您有机会在那里志愿服务。您有机会找出正在发生的事情,谁重要,谁并不重要,培训的机会,您知道以及许多不同的事情。这里有一些人正在进行有关如何运行太阳能销售业务的培训,如何证明太阳能的成本以及所有类型的东西。

因此,这不是学位课程。这是在职业培训,职业培训中。

SFG:正确,正确,好 - 再次,良好的网络。当您参加这些活动时,您应该去寻找工作吗?

PB:It doesn’t hurt, but I think -- and, you know, you could be lucky that occasionally have job fairs and jobs advertised at them and if you attend even -- like there’s a solar power conference every year, which is the biggest in the U.S. It varies from -- it’s been in the west coast most recently, but it has been on the east coast as well. I think last one was at San Diego last year, last fall.

But they often have jobs advertised as well and so you know when they get a chance to go around and visit all the booths and talk to all the companies and the people running those companies, but yet just to see what jobs they’ve got advertised.

You know, so and the more they see you, the more you give them your card and shake their hand, and the nice thing about -- I mean the solar power conference is kind of not the best forum -- at least I don’t think it is because there are just so many people there.

而且,销售人员专注于出售商品,而不是听您想卖掉自己的东西。但是他们 - 当地协会有各种各样的事情,您知道,它的正式程度要少得多,交易少得多,交流的机会较小,但是良好的网络机会更好。因此,我认为这两者的混合就是您想做的。

您在当地协会遇到的人,您可以在太阳能上见面并加强它。他们看到您的兴趣和您的决心。因此,任何其他行业也是如此。您会发现如何在不存在的情况下构建该网络,因为我们所有人都以一种或另一种方式具有这种关联。有些人像我们在加利福尼亚一样在本地拥有它们,其中一些您可能需要旅行一点,但这会变得更加困难,但这并非不可能。如果我想这样做,那肯定就是我开始的方式。

SFG:那些不是直接属于太阳能行业的公司,但也许有人负责将太阳能带到其设施的内部呢?假设这是一家想要提高绿色地位的制造公司?

PB:好吧,他们有两种方法,我倾向于只看到第二种方式做的那些。一个是他们可以从内部提升。因此,他们会发现某人具有正确的技能,他们可以任命他去做这种工作,或者从外部招募。我相信,如果他们从外面招募,那么他们倾向于去专家。

因为那是他们想要的。他们可能里面有一位通才。他们希望专家为特定应用程序提供专家,因此我认为这并不能真正帮助人们试图闯入该行业的人。

SFG:好吧好吧。因此,对我们的读者有任何最后的建议,他们可能想将自己升入更绿色的公司,这是一家更绿色的公司,但也许没有太阳能学位毕业的标准或资格?

PB:好吧,这是一种全部。我回去说专注于特定行业的特定内容。找出尽可能多的信息,您可以在不回到大学的情况下做到这一点。找出培训的机会。确定您最适合的地方,因为正如我所说,一家太阳能公司雇用了与其他公司相同的人。

因此,会计师在那里受雇,您不需要特定的技能即可成为会计师,但是您可能想做的就是识别您所在地区的公司,因此,您知道您的研究,您知道,Google。

SFG:That’s a good point. You don’t have to be a scientist to work at one of these companies.

PB:绝对不。我的意思是,我们宣传的一项工作是行政助理的文书。他们需要所有相同的人。他们只是不会搬迁所有这些,因此您必须找到本地的。

SFG:好的。好吧,这非常有帮助,彼得,我感谢您今天的时间。

PB:谢谢。

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